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Ember Spirit vs Vengeful Spirit

Quick answer

Ember Spirit is a spell-based counter to Vengeful Spirit. Sleight of Fist — timed projectile avoidance while invulnerable: Magic Missile: a timed disjoint avoids the incoming stun projectile, not Nether Swap. Despite that interaction, the stored matchup model favours the opponent. Model edges are not measured win rates.

Ember Spirit vs Vengeful Spirit: game-time comparison

These positions don't share a lane; compare teamfight interaction instead. Usual positions are assumed from recent games — change them to match your game.

Role impact

Separate lanes — this is a rotation & teamfight matchup.

Neither hero's lane record establishes a direct laning advantage over the other. Whole-match win rates and economy stay unchanged: those samples are not position-filtered.

Ember Spirit · Mid

Usual role

Item priorities · 20:00

    No documented item answer for this opponent.

    Role priorities are buyer guidance, not measured build results or exact purchase times.

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    Vengeful Spirit · Hard support

    Usual role

    Item priorities · 20:00

    • Orchid / Scythe of Vyse

      Situational / another teammate may buy · 15–27 min

      Why against Ember Spirit

      Locks down a hero that otherwise cannot be caught, turning their tempo into your kills.

    Role priorities are buyer guidance, not measured build results or exact purchase times.

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    Ember Spirit

    Ember Spirit

    Vengeful Spirit

    Vengeful Spirit

    20:00Mid game
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    Win rates below are eventual outcomes among games lasting at least 20 minutes, not live win predictions. Pro hero averages use up to 200 recent games per hero; opposing-pair results have their own sample.

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    0 hero games · 0 vs Vengeful Spirit · 0 gold records · 0 net-worth records

    Counter-item windows

      No documented counter-item window.

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      Counter-item windows

      • Orchid / Scythe of Vyse

        15–27 min · In window

        Against Ember Spirit

        Locks down a hero that otherwise cannot be caught, turning their tempo into your kills.

      Public head-to-head at 20:00+: No public sample available. Sampled from the latest 20,000 recorded public matches, filtered to this patch.

      Sources & sample limits
      • OpenDota parsed pro telemetry; missing observations stay blank.
      • STRATZ net-worth histories use up to 12 recent games per hero, with their own sample count. Unavailable histories stay blank; earned gold is separate.
      • Items use recorded purchase times plus final inventories; earlier sold items and exact six-slot histories are not reconstructed.
      • Counter-item windows are mechanical guidance, not measured item-driven win-rate changes.
      • Public results use dated OpenDota public matches; longer games are a different cohort.

      Lane meeting & late-game evidence

      Ember Spirit position 2; Vengeful Spirit position 5.

      Direct lane evidence is not applicable to these selected positions.

      For late-game evidence, compare the 25–60 minute outcome cohorts and recorded economy above. These do not prove which hero outscales the other.

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      Spell answers & exceptions

      Projectile avoidance

      Ember Spirit — Sleight of Fist — timed projectile avoidance while invulnerable

      Magic Missile: a timed disjoint avoids the incoming stun projectile, not Nether Swap.

      A spell answer covers the named effect, not the entire enemy kit or a guaranteed win.

      Ember Spirit

      Ember Spirit

      -0.8% vs Vengeful Spirit

      Spell-based counter: Ember Spirit counters specific parts of Vengeful Spirit's kit. Sleight of Fist — timed projectile avoidance while invulnerable: Magic Missile: a timed disjoint avoids the incoming stun projectile, not Nether Swap.

      Despite the counter, the stored matchup model favours the opponent. This is not a measured win rate.

      • Sleight of Fist — timed projectile avoidance while invulnerable: Magic Missile: a timed disjoint avoids the incoming stun projectile, not Nether Swap.
      • Sleight of Fist: a low health pool that dies quickly
      • Fire Remnant: no reliable escape once caught
      Vengeful Spirit

      Vengeful Spirit

      +0.4% vs Ember Spirit · Soft edge

      • Magic Missile: once locked he cannot remnant out

      Mechanical counters describe specific spell interactions, not an answer to every ability. Proven effectiveness requires strong matchup evidence; neither guarantees a win.

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